Some remarks for MLF2 (Features)

by Otto, Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 21:05 (6054 days ago)

Hello,

I am an Parsimony user, and I am looking for a script that could replace the Parsimony script. I have reasonable knowledge about the internet backgrounds, but I am less experienced in scripting, but with a little trial and error I got the script working, and I also managed to customize the lay-out a bit. The script (version 2.0) looks promising, and I would like to continue with it to replace the old script. However, there are some points I encountered which would be nice to add to the script, to enhance the functionality:

  • Possibility to add a small picture (photograph of the user) to a profile
  • Upload of images should have the possibility to be turned off for unregistered users (I have already implemented this by editing the “posting.tpl.inc” file).
  • What is the mechanism behind the “Browse uploaded images...” window? At this moment I see all images, so also those of other users. Is that meant to be? I could imagine that this will flood the browser window very soon, or are only a limited number of images being shown?
  • Moderators should have the possibility to enter a limited area of the admin’s pages like the “spam protection” area, they should have the option to enter banned IP-addresses, user agents, and bad words. Perhaps a “mod” entry in the menu at the right top corner where the admin pages stand in case of an admin login is visible?
  • Some contact possibilities for multiple moderators. So, a kind of link which sends a message to all moderators (possibly including the admin).
  • Missing some kind of log file with information about the IP address of each message and some information about the user’s PC. This helps identifying suspicious users a lot. (Compare the Parsimony log file).
  • Display of IP-address of posters in moderator and admin mode.
  • Register self, but activated by admin or moderator (the template files suggests there is such an option, but I couldn’t find it in the settings).
  • Possibility to send messages without body text (sometimes only a subject line could be sufficient for the message). Maybe a marking could be added to visualize the message has no body.
  • How to change the color of the admin’s and moderator’s name? There seems to bee a mechanism to use different colors for admins and mods, but I couldn’t let it work.

I hope this list is useful for you ;-)

Best regards,
Otto

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by Zippo, Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 02:08 (6053 days ago) @ Otto

Hmmmmm....very interesting. Those would be quite usefull I should suppose...

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by Alex ⌂, Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 18:29 (6053 days ago) @ Otto

Hi Otto,

Possibility to add a small picture (photograph of the user) to a profile

That's already possible - but still a little hidden: you can use BB Codes in the profile and signature field.

Upload of images should have the possibility to be turned off for unregistered users

Yes, no bad idea!

(I have already implemented this by editing the “posting.tpl.inc” file).

Then you probably just hid it! ;-)

What is the mechanism behind the “Browse uploaded images...” window? At this moment I see all images, so also those of other users. Is that meant to be? I could imagine that this will flood the browser window very soon, or are only a limited number of images being shown?

Yes, five per page. Anyway this feature could still be improved a little though.

Moderators should have the possibility to enter a limited area of the admin’s pages like the “spam protection” area, they should have the option to enter banned IP-addresses, user agents, and bad words. Perhaps a “mod” entry in the menu at the right top corner where the admin pages stand in case of an admin login is visible?

Good idea as well!

Missing some kind of log file with information about the IP address of each message and some information about the user’s PC. This helps identifying suspicious users a lot. (Compare the Parsimony log file).
Display of IP-address of posters in moderator and admin mode.

That's a privacy issue. In Germany for example they talk about forbidding saving IP addresses and there's for example already a plugins for Wordpress available to prevent saving IP addresses.
But so far, the admin can see the IP addresses.

Register self, but activated by admin or moderator (the template files suggests there is such an option, but I couldn’t find it in the settings).

It's possible to set it in order that only the admin can register users.

Possibility to send messages without body text

This used to be possible in the former version but still has to be "repaired" in 2.0 (there's still a setting "empty_postings_possible" but you can't submit the form without a message [with enabled JavaScript]).

How to change the color of the admin’s and moderator’s name? There seems to bee a mechanism to use different colors for admins and mods, but I couldn’t let it work.

This is also a former and in 2.0 not yet working feature.

Alex

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by Otto, Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 19:17 (6053 days ago) @ Alex

Thanks for your reply, Alex

Possibility to add a small picture (photograph of the user) to a profile

That's already possible - but still a little hidden: you can use BB Codes in the profile and signature field.

Okay, but then it would be nice to add the "upload" button to the profile page, so you can add the picture the same way as in normal messages. (I would advise then to store those images in a different directory as the normal uploads. This makes cleaning up the upload directory easier).

Upload of images should have the possibility to be turned off for unregistered users

Yes, no bad idea!

(I have already implemented this by editing the “posting.tpl.inc” file).

Then you probably just hid it! ;-)

I changed
{if $settings.upload_images} …
into
{if $settings.upload_images && $user} …

What is the mechanism behind the “Browse uploaded images...” window? At this moment I see all images, so also those of other users. Is that meant to be? I could imagine that this will flood the browser window very soon, or are only a limited number of images being shown?

Yes, five per page. Anyway this feature could still be improved a little though.

Okay, I think that will work :)

Moderators should have the possibility to enter a limited area of the admin’s pages like the “spam protection” area, they should have the option to enter banned IP-addresses, user agents, and bad words. Perhaps a “mod” entry in the menu at the right top corner where the admin pages stand in case of an admin login is visible?

Good idea as well!

Thanks.

Missing some kind of log file with information about the IP address of each message and some information about the user’s PC. This helps identifying suspicious users a lot. (Compare the Parsimony log file).
Display of IP-address of posters in moderator and admin mode.

That's a privacy issue. In Germany for example they talk about forbidding saving IP addresses and there's for example already a plugins for Wordpress available to prevent saving IP addresses.
But so far, the admin can see the IP addresses.

Yes, but I would like it to expand it to moderators as well. I run a rather large forum, and I am responsible for the technical issues, while three moderators are checking the postings and the behavior on the forum.

Register self, but activated by admin or moderator (the template files suggests there is such an option, but I couldn’t find it in the settings).

It's possible to set it in order that only the admin can register users.

No, then the registration link disappears. Do you assume that new users should then send an e-mail to the admin to ask that he wants to register? That’s not very user friendly. I think it’s better to let them fill in the registration fields by them selves, but instead the activation link is sent to the admin/moderator. The (wannabe) user receives a message of the kind “Your registration needs to be approved by a moderator, please allow xx time to process”.

Possibility to send messages without body text

This used to be possible in the former version but still has to be "repaired" in 2.0 (there's still a setting "empty_postings_possible" but you can't submit the form without a message [with enabled JavaScript]).

Okay, I understand.

How to change the color of the admin’s and moderator’s name? There seems to bee a mechanism to use different colors for admins and mods, but I couldn’t let it work.


This is also a former and in 2.0 not yet working feature.:-)

Okay.


Alex

A few more issues:

- The contact link does not have a description when hovering over the link
- The “plus” and “minus” icon for opening the sidebar is not in the center of the title bar when using IE6 (however, with Seamonkey 1.1.4 it is okay).
- Could it made possible to add a timer which waits let’s say 2 hours before the registration activation e-mail will be sent? It appears that banned persons sometimes walk to an internet café, register them selves and continue to attack the forum. When delaying the auto registration, they have to wait a long time :).
- When using categories, then a visitor can select all or one of the categories to show. Could it be an option for registered users that they can select multiple categories in their profile and put them in an extra entry “user preference” in the drop down list?
- Is there a variable which I can use to check if I am on the main page of the forum? I would like to use a different heading for the main page as for the other pages. Currently I am using the expression {if $subtemplate == "index.tpl.inc" || $subtemplate == "index_table.tpl.inc"}, but I could imagine that’s not a recommended way. :-)

Otto

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by Otto, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 18:23 (6052 days ago) @ Otto

A few latest points :-)

  • When tags are switched off, they can still be selected in the search page.
  • When installing two MLF2s on the same site (directory ../forum1 and ../forum2), the cookies interfere with each other. So when a user logs in at forum1, and then he goes to forum2, he is still logged in, although he is not registered there.
  • Should normal users also be allowed to enter tags with their messages?


Otto

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by Alex ⌂, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 20:24 (6052 days ago) @ Otto

When tags are switched off, they can still be selected in the search page.

Tags cannot be switched off.

When installing two MLF2s on the same site (directory ../forum1 and ../forum2), the cookies interfere with each other.

Yes, in this case you have to edit "session_prefix" in the advanced settings.

Should normal users also be allowed to enter tags with their messages?

No, tags should only be used for important/special/good postings. For all other postings is the full text search.

Alex

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by Otto, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 20:51 (6052 days ago) @ Alex

When tags are switched off, they can still be selected in the search page.


Tags cannot be switched off.

Okay, I meant the tag cloud. Anyway, I can live with it :-)

When installing two MLF2s on the same site (directory ../forum1 and ../forum2), the cookies interfere with each other.


Yes, in this case you have to edit "session_prefix" in the advanced settings.

Thanks, I tried it and it looks the problem is solved!

Should normal users also be allowed to enter tags with their messages?


No, tags should only be used for important/special/good postings. For all other postings is the full text search.

oh, you mean that when a moderator or admin finds a posting interesting for the community to he can add tags to the message? I understand...

Otto

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by Alex ⌂, Friday, October 12, 2007, 17:43 (6051 days ago) @ Otto

Is there a variable which I can use to check if I am on the main page of the forum?

{if $mode=='index'}...{/if}

should work.

Alex

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Added features for testing

by Alex ⌂, Friday, October 12, 2007, 17:40 (6051 days ago) @ Otto

Hi,

now implemented here for testing:

  • Avatars
  • Image upload: possibility to be turned off for unregistered users
  • Possibility to send messages without body text (here turned off and still no marking of empty postings on the index page)
  • Highlighting admins and moderators

Alex

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by Otto, Friday, October 12, 2007, 19:55 (6051 days ago) @ Alex

now implemented here for testing:

Avatars

Nice work Alex! I'm am not a fan of avatars, so I will probably not use them on my forum. However, I could well use it when the avatar is displayed only on the profile page. In that case, the picture may also be allowed larger, for example up to 255x255 (by configuration option?). The feature I also like is the automatic downscaling of the picture to the maximum size. (Although the message that the picture was downscaled came also when I uploaded a 16x16 picture :-) )

Otto

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Testing empty postings...

by Alex ⌂, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 00:01 (6050 days ago) @ Alex

- No text -

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Testing empty posting too..have been long for this feature,

by Bogie, Tuesday, November 06, 2007, 12:19 (6026 days ago) @ Alex

- No text -

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Testing empty posting too..have been long for this feature,

by Fritz ⌂ @, Chiemsee, Tuesday, November 06, 2007, 12:26 (6026 days ago) @ Bogie

Hm?
what is this feature for? does it make any sense to have empty postings in a thread?

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I feel this feature very useful

by Wee, Wednesday, November 07, 2007, 05:03 (6025 days ago) @ Fritz

Most of the time when users just reply in the subject (maybe just "hi", "ok!"), visitors who browse the entire index page will know readily that they do not need to click into the thread to see what's inside the body.

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